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As trial lawyers, we can’t be stagnant. People change, cultures change, our jurors change, and how they process information changes. And so, as trial lawyers, our profession is one where we have to keep working on it until we decide we’re done.

Joining today’s episode are Patricia Kuendig and Tanya Ortega to talk all about cross-exam – the importance of sequencing your cross-examination chapters, the basic structure of a cross-exam, and how to deal with objectors. They also share the value of a game plan with your cross-exam, which allows you to be much more organized and quicker. 

They also talk about women empowerment and how they’re creating a collaborative community of women trial lawyers, because there’s so much comfort in knowing that you’re not alone. Hopefully, these women can tap into the magic that they can create in the courtroom, which is also very different from their male counterparts. As women lawyers, there’s something that we can bring to trials and to our practice, that men cannot. And so, we need to harness that, live the truth, and be the future of the practice.

Patricia has a diverse practice in almost every field, helping a lot of folks all over the country. Whereas Tanya does a lot of Personal Injury cases and Trust Litigation. She also handles Personal Injury, with a specialty in brain injuries.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • The importance of sequencing your cross-examination chapters
  • How to keep your tone 
  • Advice on how to deal with super objectors
  • Collaborating with other women attorneys
  • How to put together a cross-examination

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Supporting Resources:

If you are interested in attending the September 28 – Oct 1, 2023 cross-exam workshop “She Crosses” please email Patricia or Tanya directly. 

Patricia Kuendig

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Tanya Ortega

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