Jury trials can be really messy. Changes happen often and frequently every day and it can be different things, whether it be the judge, the jury, or the opposing counsel. Preparation is long. It takes many hours working on witnesses, experts, order of proof, not to mention openings, closings, and jury selection. And that doesn’t even go to tackling the paperwork that you have to do as well – the motions, the jury instructions, the witness lists, the exhibit lists.
All these things are a huge part of preparing for jury trial. And when we do all this, at times, we forget about this one really big piece of trial – an overall game plan for the day-to-day logistics. Talk about parking, lunch, meeting room, printer, even down to getting a bottle of water. This is an important piece because, without these really small things, a huge amount of stress can happen.
In today’s episode, let’s take a look at some trial preparation from a logistics perspective and things you can do to avoid stress. Although this doesn’t take a lot of thought, coming up with a game plan to cover the basics is always helpful.
In this episode, you will hear:
- Things to expect before trial
- The importance of logistics
- Things to think about from a logistics perspective
- Preparing for different scenarios
- Where to take lunch, checking the courtroom, construction, security, etc.
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Elizabeth Larrick: [00:00:00] Welcome to Trial Lawyer Prep. What if you could hang out with trial lawyers and jury consultants? Ask them about connecting with clients and juries more effectively. Then take strategies, tactics, and insights to increase your success. Each week, Elizabeth Larrick takes an in depth look at how to regain touch with the everyday world, understand the emotional burden of your clients and juries, and use focus groups in this process.
Elizabeth is an experienced trial lawyer, consultant, and founder of Larrick Law Firm in Austin, Texas. Her goal is to help you connect with juries and clients in order to improve your abilities in the courtroom. Now, here’s Elizabeth.
Hello, this is your host, Elizabeth Larrick, with Trial Lawyer Prep, a podcast designed for how to prepare cases and clients in a way to connect with jurors in the courtroom.
Today’s topic, we are going to look at some trial preparation. Trial [00:01:00] can be really messy. Changes happen often, frequently, quickly, every day, different things, whether it be the judge, the jury, the opposing counsel. Preparation can be long. Many, many hours working on witnesses, experts, order of proof, not to mention openings, closings, jury selection, and that doesn’t even go to tackling the paperwork that you have to do as well.
The motions, the jury instructions, a witness list, exhibit list. All these things are a huge part of preparing for trial. And when we do all this at times, we forget about one really big piece of trial. And that’s not forming a overall game plan for the day to day logistics, like parking and lunch and a meeting room, or even I’m going to the point of like, do we have a printer?
Can we print this motion out? Can we get it filed? Even down to bottled water. And I [00:02:00] feel like this is a pretty important piece because without these really small things, huge amount of stress can happen. If you can’t find a parking spot and you’re late, you are stressed. If you need a bottle of water and they don’t have anything in the courtroom, you are stressed.
you got a problem. So these are really small things, but they play such a big role in having a solid trial and having these things taken care of in the preparation to form a game plan is really low. It doesn’t take a lot of thought, but it can take some planning. But once it’s done, you can design a system for Anywhere you’re going to have a trial and that’s what I encourage you to do.
And that’s what we’re going to talk about today with this episode. And this really comes from a place of recently I was assisting two different lawyers, two different trials, getting ready. And one of the things I always, uh, Talk about with clients or with [00:03:00] witnesses is what I call logistics. Where are you going to park?
Can you walk that far? Do you have the cash to pay for that parking? Do you know what you’re going to do for lunch? And we even go over very basic, like the trial starts at 9 a. m. That means you need to be in the courtroom by at a minimum of 8 45. You are going to meet with this staff, you guys are going to exchange cell phone numbers.
You know, you’re going to be here on this day or you’re not coming until Thursday. And we really walk through some very basic information that does not change about trial. We always talk about the first day because that is really set. We generally know what you’re going to do. After that, it’s a free for all.
So one of the things I really. I encourage lawyers to do and one of the things I always do with my clients and getting them ready for trial is walk through this basic information because after they gain this information, then we have to prepare them [00:04:00] for the mental part of constant change and the inability to always stop.
And be able to ask questions because trial happens really quickly. And as lawyers, we’re ready for that. We understand that we’ve gone through that before. If you haven’t gone through a trial before, that’s what you can expect is there may be a motion that gets filed and you have to argue it in the next morning, there may be a new exhibit.
You have to review that 600 pages that you weren’t ready for. There may be a different witness that has to go out of order. I mean, Um, things are constantly changing and preparing as best as you can for that is what we really try to do. You can’t always prepare for everything, but we can always be ready for change.
And that’s why I emphasize the importance of the logistics as a small piece that we can do to really reduce some stress. Let’s just avoid this stress that may happen in, of course, it happens naturally with clients and it happens [00:05:00] with us, whether we like to admit it or not. And so back to my talking about.
Um, helping out with these two different trials, I kind of start asking those questions with the lawyers. Hey, what do you guys do for lunch every day? Do you have a meeting room where you meet up? Does the courtroom have a room that you guys can take over and lock? Are you going to take bottled water with you?
Are you going to have pen and paper? Do you have a printer there? You know, where do you expect the clients to park? And it was a lot of really big question marks. And we had one trial that was basically going to be out of town for this set of lawyers. And so. Okay, well, let’s work on that, you know, maybe I’ll get a contact and we’ll find you a place that’s really close to the courthouse so you can walk over there, meet the clients, have lunch there, you know, leave your stuff there, walk back to the courthouse.
The other trial that I was helping with was in the same hometown, so the lawyer was 100 percent used to, oh yeah, park here. Oh yeah, I just bring my lunch because you can’t go in the courthouse cafeteria. Like, Oh, these are all really important things to help the client with too. So [00:06:00] what’s the game plan then for them?
Because there’s going to be three of them or four of them, or there’s just one of them. And do you have any staff that’s going to be helping and, Okay. If you don’t have staff, like we really need to let everyone else know what they can expect, that they can’t reach and talk to you during the trial. So these two experiences made me think, okay, let me just throw this out on the podcast because It’s just another thing to think about, but it’s also really, really simple.
And where this comes from for me was I had done several trials and we just winged it, you know, like, Oh, we’re just going to show up and maybe it’s in our hometown and we park, we always park, or maybe it’s out of town and we’re just going to figure it out when we get there. And that’s generally what we did.
But once I did my time with the Keaton law firm and we had three separate trials, In three very different places, you know, Kentucky, Seattle, Vegas. Those are all [00:07:00] very different places with all very different rules. But that was one of the things we always tackled first was logistics. Okay, scope it out.
Where are we going to park? What are we going to do for lunch every day? Where are we going to meet with the clients? Who’s assigned to meet with the clients? And That way we always knew where to go. We didn’t have to worry about where am I going to be able to go print this? We always had a printer with us.
Who is going to tackle these things? Okay, well, we’re going to assign these tasks to this person, or this is, you know, this issue goes with that person. And if it comes up at trial, you got to tackle it. It’s going to be your issue. But it was always really helpful because we did that first. And then we got to preparing everything else, order of proof, talking to witnesses, practicing opening.
And once we started on the day one of trial, we knew all the daily stuff was easy for us, right? That was not a barrier. [00:08:00] There was no stress there. And so coming up with a game plan to kind of cover the basics is always a super helpful task. Like I said before, it doesn’t take very long, but it’s really thoughtful in thinking of, okay, where are we going to meet?
Some people call it a war room. It’s just a meeting room where basically you can leave your stuff there. If you need to, you can meet with clients there. Witnesses can be there. Experts can meet there. That’s where you’re going to bring your extra printer to print things. If you need to for motions or exhibits, you got your bottle of water there ready for you.
Take it with you to the courtroom. extra paper, pens, pencils, binders, all your kind of supplies of extra things that you may need because you can’t go back to the office in the middle of trial. And it also helps at times if you’ve got a team assembled, somebody can work in that room while the trial is going on, meeting with a witness, getting them ready, or meeting that expert and taking them over to [00:09:00] the courthouse.
But it really It gives a neutral place where you can meet, have open conversations, because sometimes it’s in the courthouse, sometimes it’s not. I recently listened to a podcast for a verdict that came out of Midland, Texas, with John Bailey, and they had a pretty rural courthouse situation, so they just pulled a travel trailer over there.
And that was their place where they were able to meet, they had everything they needed there, and that’s such a great idea. Not necessarily something we could do here in Austin, or other courthouses, but it’s just being resourceful and they really took the time to make sure that they thought that through and took care of that very basic need for everybody.
And then nobody had to worry about where to go. The other thing that you can put in your game plan is parking. This is always, I feel like, an issue for most courthouses and how much is it going to cost and where is it going to be and what is the time to walk over the courthouse. Can somebody drop you off?
All these things. I know parking seems [00:10:00] like such a Really small thing. Elizabeth really, we’re spending time talking about parking for trial prep. Yes, because I have been that person that has not thought about it and just winged it. And then, oh my gosh, I had to walk 10 blocks with all of my stuff. Not a good appearance as you walk in, like super out of breath or completely flustered and everyone else straight to go.
And that really small mental thing can just. really ravage your day because it’s hard to get back from that. It’s hard to come back down from that because then you’re always behind the ball. We don’t want to start that way. So that’s why I emphasize this game plan. Another part of the game plan is where are you guys going to have lunch every day?
I know some lawyers don’t eat during trial. I don’t necessarily think that’s a good idea. Maybe at least eat something. But you want to make sure at least you know where you’re going to have lunch for the clients. Are you going to have it brought in? Is it going to be at the meeting room or the war room?
I always try my best to avoid having [00:11:00] anybody eating down at the courthouse cafeteria because you just don’t want to run into jurors or even create that possibility. So you’d have it brought in or bring your lunch every day or, you know, have a stash of protein bars or peanut butter crackers or fruit, whatever it is that would help you have some energy and kind of keep that energy up.
So food and water are always super important. Another part of the game plan is the courtroom, right? Where is the closest restroom? Is there an elevator that we’re going to have to take up six floors? Are we going to have to wait for everybody else? That’s Going to court that day, and is that going to take time if you’ve got a cart or a dolly that you need to take into the courtroom?
How easy is it to get there? Can you not get it up there? Is it all stairs? All these really simple questions that you would want to know. Before, and I know a lot of people wait until the week before trial, uh, uh, don’t do that, especially on the technology part. I mean, it’s very easy to set up a time to go in to an empty [00:12:00] courtroom and sit in there, check out all the technology, what kind of cords, what things are needed.
Do they have easels? Do they have flip charts? Should we bring our own? But also just getting that visual down because once you have the visual down, you can then use it in all of your preparation as far as thinking about standing there giving that opening or questioning that witness or asking the jury questions.
That visual is very, very helpful in just getting your mind ready for preparation. Is there an extra room? Sometimes courthouses have rooms for the lawyers to use, and they lock it for you every night. Sometimes they don’t. Some courthouses don’t even lock their courtroom, so you want to make sure you take everything out.
But these are really, really small questions that can create a lot of stress. Carrying your stuff in and out every day can be a problem, and especially if you’re by yourself, right? Taking those exhibits back and forth every day, very small things that make a huge impact to you. Other things that I always like to consider for my [00:13:00] game plan is, is there construction in the area?
What is the traffic like? Are there going to be other trials or motions that go on in the courthouse that may impede traffic for you as far as going through security every day? And these are all items, this game plan can be tackled by staff. It doesn’t have to be you. It can be you. If you are solo like me, it would be you, but it just helps you avoid the stress.
It really creates an assurance that you have the things that you need and you’re really giving peace of mind to people. client, to your staff, to your witnesses, that, hey, we, we’ve got these real basic covered. We, you know, exactly where to go. Your basic needs are met. After that, it’s kind of a free for all.
No, no, no. Just kidding. It’s not really a free for all, but sometimes it feels like that. Now you may be saying to yourself, okay, my trials are in the same courthouse every year. I always go. I know what to expect. None of that’s going to [00:14:00] change. Well, it’s post pandemic. A lot of things have changed in courtrooms and courthouses.
Some of them haven’t. But, at a bare minimum, I know security changes often and frequently at most courthouses, construction around courthouses changes often and frequently, all these really small things that could put a cog in your flow, and that’s what we want to avoid, right? So this is a really, really simple concept.
But I think that’s why it gets overlooked, because it’s just so simple. It’s simple to do, simple not to do, but doing it will create a really helpful plan for everybody to be on the same page, create some really basic expectations, and take care of some simple Simple needs that you will have during trial, everyone will have during trial and we’ll just check things off that list so then you can move to the heavier mental things that go along with trial.[00:15:00]
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